Variation in the role

Heather VanCura: Yes, I like to do different things because I get bored easily. I like that there's a technical challenge to this job. I don't have a technical background, but I understand and have learned about tech at a high level. I've had to learn that. There's always something new to learn from people and the way they use Java around the world.

There are many different jobs that one can have within this industry. Often, people think that tech is not for them because they don't see themselves as being a programmer. There are many different roles and being a developer advocate is one of them. There are different official job descriptions for that position, as we've discussed. You wouldn't necessarily say that the chairperson of the JCP is an advocate, but that's definitely part of my job.

Geertjan Wielenga: Earlier, you mentioned women in software development. Could you talk about that further?

Heather VanCura...