The big DevOps guy versus the little DevOps guy

Jeff Sussna: I'm surprised at how common they are, regardless of the size of the company. For example, pretty much every single client that I've had, regardless of size, has compliance issues.

Maybe they're a start-up, but they're a healthcare start-up, which means they have to deal with HIPAA (The Health Insurance and Accountability Act of 1996); or maybe they process credit cards, which means they have to deal with PCI (Payment Card Industry); or they provide services to the Federal Government, which means they have to comply with FedRAMP, which is as draconian as any of the other compliance rule sets as you can find. Issues about audits, and segregation duties and access control; all of those things are common across my clients, regardless of their size.

"Pretty much every single client that I've had, regardless of size, has compliance issues."

—Jeff Sussna

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