On Amazon, Microsoft, and Google

Viktor Farcic: There's one last question before we go, which is based on the way companies such as Amazon, Microsoft, and Google are working. Are they eating away the need for skilled people? I mean, we're in 2019, and you don't need to develop your own machine learning now as Google gives it to you. Likewise, you don't need to transcribe as Google does it for you, and that's just two of multiple possible examples. So, what is the relation between the services and what we're doing?

Damien Duportal: For me, it's like drying a river. Those companies need skilled people, and the few that they've currently hired are being paid a lot. But right now, the question is: why are these people skilled? It's because they gained experience and knowledge over the years. But how did they do that? Because the companies that hired them gave them opportunities.

It's like the COBOL time. At this moment in time...