What it means to be truly Agile… and the importance of Kubernetes

Viktor Farcic: Let me ask a follow-up question then. How many companies have you seen that are actually truly Agile?

Wian Vos: I've seen a lot of development teams that are truly Agile. I worked for Xebia for a long enough time to actually know what Agile is, where it was implemented, and what to look for.

But being truly Agile takes perseverance, which is pretty hard to find these days in the corporate world. It's not just doing two weeks in front of a board with a lot of sticky notes. It's much more than that; it's a mindset. It's not going into that hole of saying, "I want this feature now because I have money." It's more like saying, "Alright, let's plan this, put this on the backlog, and classify it."

I haven't seen many, if any, truly Agile companies, but I have seen companies trying to be Agile, and before that, companies trying...