Agile versus DevOps

Jeff Sussna: DevOps completes the Agile equation. Agile talks a lot about delivering value and working code, but the problem is that by itself, it doesn't actually deliver anything. Instead, Agile kind of stops when you have code that's been written and tested, which nobody can use, so it doesn't do anybody any good.

The reason for that is Agile grew up in the product age when you would take your code, put it on a CD, and send it to your customer, who were the ones responsible for actually deploying and operating it. Those days are pretty much gone now, so that development and operations elements are really part of the same equation. Agile can't actually deliver the value unless that code can be deployed, and that deployment environment can be operated, and the problems can be fixed, including where new code can be deployed, and so on.

I don't think development without operations is meaningful anymore; and again, to clarify, when I...